For their ****ups?
All we've got so far is Congresspeople threatening to introduce more laws that won't be enforced, just like the laws that weren't enforced this time.
One example
One of the fiercest gun-control advocates in Congress, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), pounced on the shooting massacre in Tucson Sunday, promising to introduce legislation as soon as Monday.
How about a bill to lock up that Sheriff out there in Arizona - or an indictment for criminal negligence under existing law?
You think I'm kidding?
I'm not.
It now appears that the suspect in this shooting posted death threats against law enforcement agencies a month ago. He was also kicked out of school for "bizarre" behavior some time back.
It's a felony to threaten a law enforcement officer with death. Actually, it's a felony to threaten anyone with death.
So why wasn't he charged?
If he had been, there would have been no gun. He would have had to turn it over, if he already owned it, and he would have been blacklisted in the NICS since he had a pending indictment.
Indeed, Hal Turner is sitting in jail right now for something that arguably wasn't a threat - but a jury was convinced it was, and that was enough.
Again - how come we're not talking about this Sheriff who didn't investigate and bring charges? If he had, this nut would not have shot anyone!
Many said that people with a history of mental instability, like the alleged shooter, Jared Lee Loughner, should not be able to buy a gun
Well that's true. Go talk to the Sheriff. They had every reason to detain this guy, investigate and charge him with threatening the life of police officers. That was more than enough to remove his ability to own firearms legally.
and no one should be able to buy stockpiles of ammunition used by the 22-year-old assailant.
Stockpiles? What stockpiles? Oh, you mean a whole 30 rounds or so? How long does that last at a target range? How many rounds does an average person consume at a target range, by the way? Have you ever been to one?
Again - it is already a felony to threaten anyone with death. The alleged shooter posted said threats online a month ago, and this was apparently known to local law enforcement.
So why wasn't he picked up and charged?
As for the "could be seen as", I expect you'll start with President Obama, who said, and I quote:
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”
Would that constitute an impeachable offense Mr. Brady? Incidentally, that's not a singular event. President Obama called political opponents "enemies" and stated that Democrats should "punish them." Here's a quick compendium of a few more, all spoken by our President during the last campaign (oops - there's another militaristic word):
“Argue with neighbors, Get in their face!,” -“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,”- “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry.” -“Punish your enemies” -“We talk to these folks… so I k...now whose ass to ...kick.“- “I’m itching for a fight.” “Hand-to-hand combat”.
And incidentally, why is it that members of Congress - or any other federal or state official - should have superior protection under the law compared to anyone else?
You know, you just took an oath of office and now you intend to violate it. That, all alone, is enough to justify your removal from Congress.
What do I speak of? Right here:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Now the question will turn on whether the 5th Amendment bars The Federal Government from enacting such a law (since the 14th turns explicitly on the States.) In 1954, The Supreme Court said yes in the context of segregation of the public schools in Washington DC (not a State.) It's an open question and a good one, but it certainly can be held (and was, in that decision) that the 5th Amendment's Due Process requirements are violated when The Federal Government attempts to draw these differentiations.
Not that it should matter, since under the law of most States a threat to commit murder or great bodily harm is already a crime. In most states a threat to commit murder is a felony.
Wouldn't it be nice if existing laws were actually enforced and our law enforcement agencies were held to account when they screwed the pooch instead of Congresscritters running around screaming about how we need new laws which we also won't enforce?
If the so-called Sheriff out in Tuscon had enforced the already-existing law nobody would have been shot on Saturday.
We have sat through three years of refusal to enforce the law, but it certainly didn't start in 2007. It's been an endemic problem - we pass laws, we refuse to hold those who won't enforce them to account, and then we complain when bad things happen - that would not have happened if we had enforced the law.
Sheriffs, FBI Agents and others in so-called "law enforcement" get a continual pass on these threats to the public, just like The Fed, OCC, OTS and others. Doesn't matter who you are - if you have a job to do in enforcement of a law or regulation and you don't do it, or even in some cases if you conspire with those who break said law or regulation, you not only keep your job in many cases you get promoted!
Specifically, threats of "tanks in the streets" communicated to lawmakers by government officials, banksters admitting to funneling drug money around for Mexican gangs, admitting to transferring funds while intentionally obscuring their source and/or destination to internationally-designated terrorist nations (Iran, in particular), over 150,000 admitted bogus documents filed in foreclosure actions and now, a Sheriff who rants about "divisive rhetoric" in Arizona while he watches illegal aliens waltz all over Arizona during a time when the state is being sued by the Federal Government for enforcing an actual law.
Meanwhile, our alleged gunman was ejected from his college and told he could not return without a psychological clearance and allegedly posted death threats online against police officers!
Between those two there was more than enough to investigate and, assuming the allegations are true, charge him - which would have forced him to turn over any existing weapons and prevented him from passing a NICS check to buy any new ones.
Funny how we're not talking about the law enforcement failures in this case - just as we didn't when our friendly underwear bomber that led to the strip-search scanners in airports was walked around security in Amsterdam by someone who we still don't have identified for us, nor has that been explained. Number of people held to account for walking him around security and letting him on a plane without proper credentials? Zero.
Ruby Ridge anyone? A 1995 Senate Report found the rules of engagement unconstitutional. Number of FBI agents held to account through criminal prosecution for the unlawful killing of Vicki Weaver? Zero - a state indictment was removed to federal court and quashed on sovereign immunity grounds despite US Code saying otherwise (My interpretation: if we're government goons we'll kill 'ya any time we want and it's not murder as the law doesn't apply to us). Of note the government did pay a $100,000 settlement to Randy and $1 million each to his three daughters, and settled a further lawsuit rather than let it go to trial.
These aren't isolated incidents and they're not new. This is a pattern and process of corruption and it has been going on for a hell of a long time. If a civilian was involved we'd rightfully call it racketeering. But Government doesn't care about what went wrong, about who's accountable and about actually holding those government actors to account at the federal, state or local level - ever.
Instead, we hear about why with 20,000 gun laws already on the books, we need more. We hear about laws to make threatening "certain special someones" life illegal when it's already illegal to make death threats. We have banks that were involved in corruption in the municipal debt markets, money laundering for drug gangs and the apparent filing of over 150,000 perjured affidavits, each and every one of them a felony, nobody lays charges and then we wring our hands when people get hurt.
The response from our "lawmakers" is and has been consistent - pass more useless laws that restrict freedom and violate The Constitution instead of coming down like an anvil on the head of those putative agencies and the individuals in them that fail to do their jobs.
When will we, the citizens of this nation, demand better?
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7 Comments
Annonymous
I blame Congress for the state of this country. Not the media, not the public, not the Tea Party and not the Internet. Congress people want to get elected and they are willing to steal from future generations to make their constituents happy today. And don't get me started on the crap that comes from the mouth of both parties. For anyone to spin this as a right-wing plot is an absolute joke. KD, as you said above, Obama has been using street language for a long time in trying to denounce his critics. It's a sad time in America
Annonymous
Yes, yes, its the government's fault through and through.
There are no more than 80 million gun owners in this country who collectively own no more than 300 million guns. Why law enforcement can't figure out when one of those 80 million is going to go off their rocker and stop them before they have a chance to harm someone is beyond me.
The fact that this particular whack-job was able to legally buy and carry a semi-automatic pistol with a 30 round clip is, of course, COMPLETELY immaterial....
Annonymous
@ChesterGenghis: Political dissidence is starting in this country and the one who bladently started it you call a "whack-job." How shallow. All you have to go by is what the media is reporting and you so easily fall for it. This was a revolutionary act. Look at the targets, look at the evidence presented in the Ytube videos.
People have been talking about this coming for years and when you see it happen you fall for what you are fed by the talking heads in the media. You say this "whack-job" legally bought a semi-automatic pistol? How do you know were you with him?
I consider this revolutionary act a serious wake-up call that I hope our elected officials also take seriously. The voice of the people have been ignored and the public has been complaining for a long time. I certainly don't want to see a violent revolution begin in this country and I am sure you don't want to go through one either.
This is a time for clear thinking and discernment of ideas. It is a time for the politicians to listen to the people. We have high unemployment in this country and the young people have little hope for their future. They do not have the opportunities we had at a young age. The government is responsible for this. They are the ones that made it possible for our corporations to export jobs. They are the ones the people expect to bring the jobs back or figure out how to replace the jobs they exported. It is the young generation that become the political dissidents. It is them that will rebel against the government. It started in Arizona. If you want to continue to be part of the chorus of people calling this guy a "whack-job" fine, bury your head in the sand, but reality is reality. We need to diffuse this trend; not by beefing up security, but by bringing back jobs and a robust economy.
Think about how many young people are out there with a college education, heavily in tuition debt, with no other prospect than flipping burgers at the local greasy spoon. How many young people do you think are out there with a vocational education competing for $9 an hour jobs that are almost non-existant. How many young people in the construction trades are sitting around collecting an unemployment check that is barely paying bills.
It is time this country starts thinking about it's young people instead of sattling them with the 14 trillion national debt and no hope of securing a good paying job, or collecting social security at an old age. Congress better start paying attention.
If most of the mature people in this country share your attitude of what happened in Arizona and what it means for the country; passing it off as some stunt by a "whack-job", and not what it really is as political dissidence with a bent toward revolution, then we are indeed in trouble as a people.
TeresaE
How many cars are there in America Chester? If someone wanted you dead, they could climb behind the wheel and wait for you. It has happened before, and yes, crazy people have plunged their cars into crowds hoping to take out the most that they can. Should we ban cars?
Guns do not kill people. Nature (god if you prefer), crazy people and accidents kill people.
We are already buckling under millions of pages of laws. They do next to NOTHING to prevent crime in any manner. All you need to do is look at our incarceration rates to see reality. Locking up more people than any other country sure as hell isn't making us safer, or less crime-ridden.
They do make the courts and legal system nearly supreme in all matters. They have also turned nearly every one of us law-abiding, hard-working, tax paying citizens into "criminals." (which is a sign of a diseased government - everything is illegal and all of the citizens criminals in one way or another).
There are people running around China, going into schools and killing kids with kitchen knives. I'm going to guess your solution would be to ban kitchen knives.
Our government workers are NO BETTER than any of us. Our rights were well thought out and have made us the country we are (well, used to be).
Pray tell, Sir, when the Supreme Court has ruled a minimum of NINE times that law enforcement has absolutely NO DUTY to protect individuals, why would we reduce the ways in which Americans can protect themselves and their families?
It is proven on history's pages that it is futile, impossible even, to regulate crazy - or human nature - out of existence.
You are willing to trade your freedoms for this illusion of safety and security. I'm not.
And I won't even get into the discussion about why the ONLY way we have been attacked on our soil was through the one place that citizens could NOT protect themselves - airports. Or do you think it was a coincidence the terrorists used that mode to destroy many? I don't.
Annonymous
@TeresaE: well said, you got my thumbs up. thanks for this comment.
Annonymous
All the time Karl, A goverment of the people, by the people, & for the people, less we forget. Why have this country, the USA been hi-jack by a bunch of jerks, Jokers & clowns? I stand my case in front of the Americana people.
Annonymous
@michsan: The jerks,jokers, and clowns are a hell of a lot smarter and organized than the populace of this banana republic!