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They never seem to tell people that stagflation is the worst of both worlds, higher consumption oriented costs and falling investments (and markets mired in debt) while the economy dies on the basis of higher risk premiums because of lower bond and debt prices.

Is it no wonder that precious metals will do well ?   It doesn't matter how things shake out. as long as the economy is bad, precious metals can protect you. Some only see them as an inflation hedge. Bank failures have to be considered also.

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The lion's share of profits have already been take on gold Rooster and the market has traded sideways ever since. Never understimate those in power who can dump gold in the market to save there fiat currency. I have small amount of gold but as a physical hedge of the small but existing possibility of total societal breakdown. I further hedge my families bet with butter, bullets and medicine and soon a small bit of farmland as dual recreation, survival locale away from major metros. History does rythm.

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"The mindset of all these central-planning types is the same, and what they're intent in doing has been clear for some time.  As Bernanke said quite a while ago, they have a printing press.  And, to doubt its ability to generate INFLATION is to ignore history."  08/24/09

                                                                                 ---  Bill Fleckenstein,   Fleckensteincapital.com

                                                                                      Author of:  "Greenspan's Bubbles" 

                                                                                                         "The Age of Ignorance at the Federal Reserve"

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The only true economic model is a FREE MARKET, whether it is commodities, banking, labor or sex.  Its just when man/women are faced with the reality of a total FREE MARKET,  for some reason it scares the shit out of them.  That is why we have voted to keep Social Security and Medicare alive.  And,  plus the fact, let someone else pay for keeping grandma out of my hair in her old age.  They say, I don't want to wipe grandma's ass and change her diapers.  Well, guess what, America, you are about to start wiping a lot of grandma's asses.

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LOL .... you're too funny.

I'm saying what I'm saying because a true free market is not hierarchical in structure.  Your own expression was the application of social welfare systems. I'm simply pointing to the structure that "houses" those same social applications. Applications fit into structures. The one that we're in is passing, but has been with us since "the apple was shoved in our faces".

A free market is not hierarchical and approaches something much rounder, almost holographic. It is not bound by Newtonian principles. It is not supply driven in the sense of "here ..... eat this".

As for the real-time relationship that I referenced, there would be NO be real-time gold backed digital processing answers without the advent of the fiat dollar. It's the measure of the gold weight in the equation. Real-time gold valuations are an organic, free market concept and real-time is the direct opposite of a fixed peg.

If you calculate how much gold weight you would have to trade for a $100 widget in the real economy, in spite of the fact that you pay in gold and close out the deal with zero debt being created or changing hands, the USD's "absolute numerical value" is indispensible to the process and the mathematical equation. Work it out. You'll see. It's unavoidable because we price things in currency, not in weight.

Because the USD has such a key role in the real-time gold equation, it is VERY important for the sake of this new integration of the measure (dollars) and the weight (gold).

Real-time gold is simply about making gold instantly liquid as a currency, something that it has always been missing before the age of information. Now we have instant payment abilities with debt free store of value. We can thank gold and we can thank the debt based USD that has conceptually evolved to become the measure within the law of weights and measures.

The Federal Reserve and its fiat currency are part of an incomplete process and that process cannot be completed by the FED or the government. It must be completed from the grass roots of the market. It cannot be any other way or else a panic would ensure. Can you imagine the FED or the government creating a gold currency policy or even endorsing gold as a good currency ???  They can't. It would risk too much and the dollar would likely nosedive overnight.  So what are the FED and the gov't to do to get to a free market monetary solution ?  Guess what ?  Theyre doing it. Theyre carrying "the stick" !  Someone has to.

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