RAGINGDEBATE.COM NETWORK - FACILITATING CITIZEN'S POWERED MEDIA RECOMMENDED AFFILIATE SITE: THEBURNINGPLATFORM.COM
Economy
Energy
Health
World News
Politics

Politics and Wall Street  »  Discussions

8 Comments

Vote FOR or AGAINST comments below.
RagingDebate.com - Franks n Beans
Franks n Beans
  • Vote
  • 1
  • 3

Why doesnt anyone on these blogs give Obama a chance?

RagingDebate.com - In the Know
In the Know
  • Vote
  • 1
  • 0

I had high hopes for President Obama but he has broken every campaign promise made. Confidence must be restored to the investment community outside of the insiders which happen to be the too-big-to-fail banks on taxpayer training wheels and still manipulating the market. The Administration is listening to the wrong people, no different then President Bush.

  • Vote
  • 3
  • 0

 To Frank: The President's plummeting approval rating is a reflection of too many promises made that his plans would quickly turn the economy around. The actual plans themselves after election and published online are still vague on this issue. Legislation he is authorizing is anti-business in a depression when jobs are still being shed at 500k clip per month. Finally, those of us whom study history show the same mistakes of not holding the banksters accountable in the 1930's the same as today. Certainly the President could have used his political capital to have done far more then suggesting giving further powers to the Federal Reserve to hide looting from Wall St. investment banks. He is demonstrating the suggestions by some he is beyond far left and is a Communist. I think of it like this, that a nation becomes corrupt, it's leadership loots the Treasury and a police state is formed to quell the inevitable civil unrest. While inexperienced, Obama is smart and despite how difficult it would have been, done the right thing and rallied the American people.

RagingDebate.com - quan trang
quan trang
  • Vote
  • 0
  • 0

your leadership in washington was directly involved in highly illegal activities even by our standards here in the east. the american people will have to clean up its own backyard and dont expect any sympathy from the world in your hardships. you get the government you elect.

  • Vote
  • 2
  • 0

Let me give my simple minded view of how the CDS scheme went astray.  It is a great oversimplification, but let's consider two firms:  A and B.  The firm A sees a chance to make some easy money by selling a credit guarantee to B.  After all, B is a AAA super bank with great profitablilty.  So A agrees to sell a guarantee of $100 billion of B's debt issuance for five years for a 5% premium.  In A's mind, B can never suffer defaults more than 2 or 3% based on historical records, so this is $2 -$3 billion free money.

Now B sees that it no longer has any exposure for default on $100 billion so it goes right out and places another $100 billion in loans and debt based securities to maintain its max leverage position.  By paying $5 billion to A for "insurance", B has enabled another $25 billion (or more) of income over the next five years.  The market for placing high quality debt has been degraded by all the debt issued previously, so the new debt is issued to lower quality borrowers.

With the system now stretched, defaults start to increase.  The defaults depress economic activity, which triggers more defaults.  The historical limit assumed by A is exceeded and soon A has no more assets to back the CDS guarantees.  That leaves B with double the leverage they assumed existed after buying the CDS protection.  All this happens in a market that exceeds the historical pattern maxima for defaults.  And the valuation of the still performing assets must be written down to reflect continuing growth of defaults.  Once the dam is broken, A & B are swept under by balance sheets that show massively negative net worth.  They are insolvent and the negative net worth is falling further in cascades as defaults continue to accumulate.

Now, the accounting community comes to the "rescue".  They say that accounting rules can be changed so that future defaults can be assumed non-existent.  Recognize the value that assets would have if debt performance continued at the levels of the past quarter.  That improves the balance sheets because the financial institutions can always assume things will never get worse than what they have been.  This doesn't improve anything unless the economy improves and defaults actual melt away.  Otherwise, the day of reckoning is simply postponed. 

.  

  • Vote
  • 1
  • 0

Jason, I couldn't agree more with the comment you wrote after the posted article.  I'm sensing an awareness of the banking system's corrrupt ways, but I also sense that the blame may be falling on the fact that the banking system is private. The problem should not be thought of as being on a private vs nationalized axiom , but should be viewed from the centralized vs decentralized axiom, one that allows for true competition in the form of decentralization.  That would mean entering assets back into banking, however. Can you imagine ?

The danger in the banking system is structural. It's not necessarily the ownership. Centralization focuses power to the point of absolute power.

RagingDebate.com - Getreal
Getreal
  • Vote
  • 0
  • 0

Like Eric Holder DOJ is actually going to investigate and why the DOJ? Self answering question. Why not the SEC conducting the investigation? Good point on the lobbyist money. Did any other industry provide 1/2 B in political contributions?

Leave a Comment
*NOTE: is our spam filter eating your comments? Become a registered user and login. Click here to learn more.