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AD wanting me to post this article for him. Frenchy

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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There are plenty of VALID reasons to cut down on emmissions and clean things up. There is no need for fraud. Geeze. My son has athsma. What if emmissions were cut? I would not need to move him to Arizona. Cancer would go down. Athsma and many other ailments diminished. Not to mention much more pleasant place to live. Why do they have to lie to get things done? Now they've gone and crushed any credibility they had. Well I'm glad to see the bastards go down. They are not idiots....they are highly intelligent which makes them very dangerous. Maybe now some more sensible leaders will emerge. Sure hope so...but I'm not holding my breath.

RagingDebate.com - Dee
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Our understanding of the physical world is constantly expanding - and we are far from having a firm grasp on things.  If you condense our atmosphere to a liquid, it is 1/500th the size of our oceans, and we are demonstrably polluting our oceans very seriously.  Whatever the impact of our actions and numbers on our planet, if we keep going in the direction we are going, there is a very good chance we will render the oceans lifeless (dead zones anyone?) and air insufficient to support mammalian life. 

 

Do we really need to argue about current theories as to the routes that might take us there?

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No Dee we don't. Do you agree to lock up the liars and fraudsters and agree to denounce their lies publicly.

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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The reason Venus is so hot is that it's atmosphere is mostly carbon dioxide which traps heat via the greenhouse effect.  Atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide in the earth's atmosphere have been rising for the last 150 years.  Anyone with even a thread of logical ability can make the connection.  But actually it's the ocean acidification that is more worrying.  As the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere rises the increased partial pressure increases the level of carbon dioxide saturated in the ocean.  These levels too have been measured and are increasing to the point where the shells of marine life are starting to dissolve.

Pick your poison

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No fair, AD, posting an article and not sticking around to defend it.  Although I certainly sympathize, having posted a couple of articles recently and then finding out life would not permit me time online for several days.  So we'll give you a few days' grace, minimum.

 

Anyway, good post and good article (for those interested, yes this the same Walter E. Williams of "taxes are legalized theft" fame) from Walter Williams.  

RagingDebate.com - johncoster
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Artful,

 

Why don't you fly your ignorant ass up to the arctic this summer and take a look around, talk to a few of the natives? Unless you suspect that they are plants by the Illuminati. No doubt global warming will form the basis of further scams by our Wall Street friends.

No doubt the prison walls are closing in. I wish to hell you were right, but as I have mentioned before, I   know or have had personal contact with a few of the supposed hoaxers including arch demon Gore, Mark Serreze and James Hanson. The latter two have forgotten more science than you and I will ever know and have not gained anything from this issue. Hanson in fact has had his life made more difficult by sticking up for what he believes. Of course global warming will be used as an excuse to further dismantle our freedoms. Hanson thinks the current cap and trade bill is pure bullshit, not his words but the gist of an email he sent my partner, another scam to rip off taxpayer dollars. That does not mean Global warming is a false theory. By the way Global Warming could also cause many of us to freeze our asses off due to changes in the Gulf Stream etc. Moreover, I suspect peak oil and economic meltdown may do more to solve the problem than any number "progressive" regulations.Most of which I react to much as you do. Sorry for the heated language. I spend time in the country deep in the woods. I see the changes,  migration patterns.,ranges of species. Mother Nature doesn't care about your economic and political theories.

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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ahh america. the melting pot of fraud.

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Geology 101:

  1) the Earth goes through periods of glaciation separated by interglacials;

  2) interglacials last (on average) for approximately 40,000 years;

  3) during the height of the last interglacial the Earth had NO polar ice caps;

  4) the interglacial we're living in right now began approximately 10,000 years ago;

  5) best science (so far) indicates that these climate changes are caused by both variations in solar output [the sunspot cycle has already changed in duration (9 to 11 years) once in recorded history] and by variations in the Earth's orbit (NOT by the Industrial Revolution this time around or by dinosaur farts in the past!);

  6) though humans can certainly pollute large areas of the planet, we cannot yet create major climate change; and

  7) humans have reached the top of the food chain by adapting to environmental changes and shall continue to do so (meaning you need to move your California beachside condo to Arizona!).

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