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RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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I do not see any beneficial results from all this aid. Where is the accountability? Since the fed gets to print money for free they think its just peachy to spread our currency around where it eventually returns to the treasury AND they also buy weapons form our MIC with that money! What a racket! And in 20 years or so we can claim Haiti is building up its military and occupy them again and then rebuild their country! KBR will be so happy!
RagingDebate.com - Mariafolsom
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Absolutely right, Jake. We should all show our generosity and our believe in the power of the individual by making a donation NOW. If I had one complaint (and I always have one) it would be that the Red Cross is perhaps not the best outlet. They really screwed up with 9/11 donations, mine being one the contributions that got "held in account for future disaster." (I later demanded a refund of my contribution and sent the money to another charity.) All this aside, your point about accountability and government ineptitude is right on.

RagingDebate.com - Edward
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Jake, I also don't trust the Red Cross. I still remember how they solicited donations for 9/11 victims right after 9/11, then said they were going to keep some of those funds for future operations and public outrage finally caused them to cave in and say all proceeds would go towards 9/11 victims.

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The Red Cross can go pound salt.

 

There are many more worthy organizations ... organizations that don't pay their leaders outrageous salaries and who don't have excessive administration costs ..... and, who stay out of politics.  The Red Cross fails in all of these.

 

A good organization to consider if you don't know where to contribute is Food For The Poor;  http://www.foodforthepoor.org/about/

Over 97% of monies received go DIRECTLY to the people being served.

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Thanks for the feedback!  I've looked into the Red Cross and have been satisfied and view my donation as pretty much helping replace the $1 million they already spent.  I don't deny there are better ones, and feel free to list them!

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Didn't the Nestle family have a great deal to do with the development of the Red Cross .... you know, big time arms dealers and manufacturers of baby food and disaster nutrition ...?

RagingDebate.com - Rob P.
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Jake,

 

Spot on. Thank you for referencing Colonel/Congressman Crockett's experience related to this very issue, charity. This historic account just may be the single best guide available to the American people, Congress, and the legions of bureaucrats who seek to redistribute our private property.  When left to their own devices, in the absence of government intervention,  the American people are the most giving people on the planet. We can, and do, take care of our own when given the opportunity.

 

As you stated relative to the federal government's inability to respond adequately when the need arises, "...the federal response of FEMA was famously ineffective".  Agreed. The question remains, do Americans want to be the wards of a nanny state, or the masters of their own destiny and providers of their own security in times of need? Can we restore "Constitutional Homeland Security" and be prepared in the face of a natural or man-made disaster? I am firm believer that the citizens of the respective states should plan for, and provide for, their own security.  Committees of Safety,  a grassroots organization dedicated to supporting state legislators in fulfilling their vital duties, provides the solution with its Economoc Security Bill.  Based largely on research of Constitutional Scholar, Attorney, author and lecturer Dr. Edwin Vieira, the proposed legislation will put the teeth back into the 10th Amendment, and restores sound, constitutional money to the states. The mechanism for implementation is the reestablishment of the statute state Militia structure (which was subverted by the Dick Act in 1903). The Constitution provides the legal standing in Article I Section 8, and in the 2nd Amendment of the Bill of Rights. The rest is up to "We the People"... http://CommitteesofSafety.org

 

For liberty,

Rob

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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GOOGLE up: economy of haiti, bottom of pg 3. quite a resemblance to the good ole u ass a.

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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This is so true it hurts.  Of course, people will attack you for saying things like that - but they either have to come to terms with the fact that FEMA and the rest of the federal govt. cannot effectively help ANYONE or they have to ignore it.  Most ignore it, because to face it and deny it is simply foolishness and naivete.  Beside, isn't that what the Haitian govt. is for?

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The Red Cross is a thoroughly corrupted organization, you could well describe it as the Charitable Arm of the Illuminati.  Whatever large charitable organization you donate cash to, you can about guarantee that more funds will be wasted in the administration and bidding process with private contractors to provide aid then will ever go to the people themselves.  We are organizing up a Canned Food Drive, and we will ship it ourselves to Haiti.  Once at that end, we no longer have control and no doubt the food will go to the wrong people, but at least we aren’t contributing to a huge slush fund of money that generally does not help the people all that much. If everybody just ships them food directly, then there should be enough to go round even after the local military and goobermint appartchiks take more than their fair share of it.

 

On Da Goobermint end, in reality how can a Bankrupt Goobermint that cannot provide a social safety net for its own citizens be sending $Billions in Aid to rebuild Haiti?  You can’t, but of course you can rack up more debt, and then this will actually provide JOBS for plenty of unemployed construction contractors here in the US who will be sent in with heavy equipment to clear all the rubble.

 

Haiti has been a failed state for many decades, really it was a failed state as soon as the Slave Trade went south for the Illuminati just after the Civil War.  The island was abandoned by all Capital, and the folks who were shipped there really never had any idea how to make the place a sustainable environment.  Haiti is just another version of Detroit, abandoned by Capitalistas once it outlived its usefulness.

 

The tragedy there is likely just beginning.  With that population and such a catastrophic failure of the Conduits all at once, the disease and starvation and lack of potable water will magnify the immediate death toll. It will gradually fade off the MSM Radar, but for the people there they will be dying for  long time to come here still.  This is just one place hit.  More will be hit here as time goes by, and the ability to rebuild anywhere will disappear as the money and the oil disappears.  Get used to it, Haiti is just a harbinger of things to come.  When it comes to a Theatre Near You, then you will really have problems, and real issues with how charity gets distributed.

 

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RagingDebate.com - Dr. Farid
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I think 100000 to 200000 peoples if we shift from the affected area in to the neighboring country for at least three months, from there rehabilitate and send back again with education and training that needed may be the successful rescue work.

Now there are a lot of problems in distribution of foods, insufficient foods in the market, looting,insufficient fuell,  in time T"he hounoured and dedicated persons"  those who working for helping the affected peoples will become exhausted,

Not enough doctors,specialists, relevent equipments for brain and spine surgery in there. Here many peoples are now suffering from paraplegia, hemiplegia and quadriplegia due to trauma.  These patients needs urgent operation for spine decompression and stabilization. As I am a doctor, having speciality in two  life saving subjects-Anesthesiology and Neurosurgery and also having strong desire to  help the peoples of Haiti, I am tearing without doing anything for them just sitting infrnt of net. I am realizing every minutes is important for them. With my own expense I want to give my services to affected peoples. But systems made by human is the main barrier.

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I read today that Haiti looks like a nuclear bomb was dropped on it -- but without the radiation.

 

For excellent high quality photos of the destruction, go here.  34 pics.  Same site from where I got the "ice" pictures.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/01/haiti_48_hours_later.html

 

Also, Time Mag.  45 pics

http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1953257_2024771,00.html

 

If you have the means, please donate. Anything ... no matter how small,

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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wonder the ceo of the red cross makes a year.

RagingDebate.com - BekaForney
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Davy Crockett's speech is an important one to remember.

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I worked in Haiti through the 1980's.
I've given this a lot of thought and the best way to help Haiti is to give directly to the Hopital Albert Schweitzer in Deschapelles (Artibonite Valley). The hospital is north of Port-au-Prince so it was not damaged and it will be the closest local point of quality service. It has been there for 54 years, and we visited them often during our time there. Every nickel will go directly to Haitians. http://www.hashaiti.org/   The friends of HAS have art, books, etc for sale in their online gallery. All proceeds are donated to HAS... http://www.friendsofhas.org/
RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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is alfredo gonzales, the tounge tied mouthpiece, working. obama could make him the next dictator in haiti. that would sure make the repubs happy. but only if there were substantial natural resources left to pilfer.

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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Bush Jr. and Clinton shucking
and jiving, using Haiti.

Video:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/789.html
 

You better believe it.

And Obama is part of the same crowd.

Bush classic: "Channel compassion in a proper direction"

Heaven forbid someone looks at the real problem in Haiti: centuries of vicious outside influence.
 

RagingDebate.com - coyill
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If every country did not donate federal money and break their bank in the process, as pretty every single nation does today, to help out what ever current crisis hits, then where ever that crisis does hit, they will be in a shit-hole. When the big earthquake hits Cali, and US keeps a record of offering no fed help, were not gona get much help. And sure we'll have $$ saved from not sending it over seas, but we could get alot more by going w/ the flow of the world and accepting other nations' money, (this is a global problem. the US is the odd man out. were pretty much screwed. Its the principle of USA to not give Fed $ overseas, but because its a culturally accepted principle pretty much everywhere else, realistically, were forced to do the same.

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