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RagingDebate.com - DeeDee
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And so while FASCIST culture may be the culprit, the NAZI culture is theoretical in nature and can exist only within vessels willing to give it life.

Ultimately the fault lies with those FASCISTS who refuse to see 21st century FASCISM for the cultural virus that is has become.

Unwilling to see, these FASCISTS propagate a NAZI culture.


Yet, giving them slight yet receding breathing ground, they have the shoddy defense of citing they were born into such a system.

But what about the media and our present administration - what's their excuse?

Great article!

 

"In Buffalo and Texas, a larger Muslim community failed to show the same vigilance and outcry that is demonstrated when they perceive an attack on Islam.

 

It's not just Buffalo or Texas. The phenomena exists WHENEVER two or more muslims congregate. ANYTHING and EVERYTHING can and IS perceived to be an attack on Islam.  All Christians and all of Christiany IS an offense to Islam. All Jews and all of Judaism IS an offense to Islam. All Buddhists and all of Buddhism IS an offense to Islam. 

Their entire mindset is black & white --- if you are not one of us ... you are against us. And murder is justified.

 

There is NO such thing as a moderate muslim ... unless that person is a 100% secular muslim

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"Ultimately the fault lies with those Muslims who refuse to see 21st century Islam for the cultural virus that is has become."

 

And that happens to be about 95% or more of all muslims.

 

Stop ALL muslim immigration to America NOW ... before it's too late.

 

Islam needs to evolve and so does every other government that does not provide representation in the money supply. America should let as many LEGAL immigrants in it wants when you go through an entire screening process, learn English and be felony free for three years while not asking the public for anything else besides the English language course to pass the citizenship exam.

RagingDebate.com - Neocon
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RagingDebate.com - ShireenQudosi
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DeeDee, no one's on about fascism or Nazi culture here. Perhaps you have a point, but I can't distinguish what it is since you've only taken my copy and replaced a few words.  If there is a point, please indulge us.   Neocon, you clearly lack intelligence and tact. Please try to refrain yourself in the future.  I'm sure deep down you may have something more worthwhile to contribute here, otherwise I suggest you seek another forum more in keeping with your obvious thought process.    StuckinNJ, agreed.
RagingDebate.com - DeeDee
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Physicist Jim Al-Khalili travels through Syria, Iran, Tunisia and Spain to tell the story of the great leap in scientific knowledge that took place in the Islamic world between the 8th and 14th centuries.

Its legacy is tangible, with terms like algebra, algorithm and alkali all being Arabic in origin and at the very heart of modern science – there would be no modern mathematics or physics without algebra, no computers without algorithms and no chemistry without alkalis.

For Baghdad-born Al-Khalili this is also a personal journey and on his travels he uncovers a diverse and outward-looking culture, fascinated by learning and obsessed with science.

From the great mathematician Al-Khwarizmi, who did much to establish the mathematical tradition we now know as algebra, to Ibn Sina, a pioneer of early medicine whose Canon of Medicine was still in use as recently as the 19th century, he pieces together a remarkable story of the often-overlooked achievements of the early medieval Islamic scientists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-n2BoPE2GE

 

sq:

 

Viewed from the perspective of an AMERICAN ONLY culture that treats non-CHRISTIANS with EXTREME xenophobic caution, where ultimately the only accepted people or ideology is an AMERICAN one, it’s easy to see how modern AMERICAN communities, seeped in ancient CHRISTIAN culture, view themselves as separate from a larger WORLD community.

Exclusionary in nature, AMERICAN culture does not tolerate differences; it promotes psychological imbalances by protecting and emboldening a mind that recognizes differences and shelters CHRISTIAN paranoia against non-CHRISTIANS.

 

* I only changed your labels...dd

 

 

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@ShireenQudosi: Don't reply.  "Neocon" is an American deserter, David Pierre, who fled to British Colombia during the Vietnam War.  He spams this site all the time and steals other peoples' screen name. 

RagingDebate.com - neocon
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So- called "deserters" were given a full pardon by the freely elected President of the United States, Jimmy Carter.  Those so-called deserters fled an unconstitutional war that was illegal, immoral, and unjust.  Tough shit if you don't like it.

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Something about Shireen Qudosi and the Qudosi Chronicles, in case you're interested.  Chuleta!  Note ustedes las idiomas en el fin de la articula!

(Check out her language proficiencies.  Add English.)

 

QUDOSI CHRONICLES | www.Qudosi.com

Working in any capacity to further help both Muslims and non-Muslims understand Islam became a resolute goal soon after reading the Quran for myself, at a time where beheadings were a near weekly occurrence.

Partly due to my Eastern heritage and Western education, I was and continue to be fascinated by the psychology the faith instills within its followers - a psychology that fails to be scrutinized effectively.

I've worked with a number of groups and agencies, including the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California, the Afghan Consulate, and the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department's MCA Unit.

In 2006-2007, I traveled to Tokyo and had the opportunity to study migrant Muslim communities, with a particular interest in the psychology of reversion among Japanese women.

In 2008 I took an interest in comparative studies between the Quran and the Bible. In 2009, I focused primarily on extensive networking to broaden my resource base and began collaborating with national think tanks. 2009 also saw the launch of the Qudosi Chronicles and Revolution Islam.

When it comes to Islam, the issues and sub-issues are endless. My emphasis here is to not abide by allegiances that are forced upon us at birth. As such, I have no problem speaking without bias or predisposed notions of loyalty to culture and religion - a combination that is critical if we are to overcome radicalism within Islam.

Shireen Qudosi’s Specialties:

Fluent to Conversational in:
Urdu, Punjabi, Hindi, Farsi, Spanish, and Italian

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RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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This site is fast turning into a real piece of crap. Neocon hits on a new poster, Shireen, tells her he's hung like an elephant and he gets FOUR thumbs UP!  Russo CORRECTLY calls the guy a scumbag and he gets FIVE thumbs DOWN!!  People are getting multiple thumbs down for even the most innocent of comments.  People come here and flame and troll and incite and Mr. Quinn doesn't do a damn thing about it. What a huge waste of time coming here is.

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Jim has nothing to do with this thread. We are all starting a new way to do things all over the world. The process of learning to become one united species will be messy. I twinned this article on my entire network including TBP. Neocon was banned. Shireen is far smarter than to let a fool scare her off. The global debate has now begun and it is high time.
RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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Still killing each other over the same monotheist God? Sheeesh.
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@Anonymous: Christians don't worship a Moon God without one begotten Son with a holy meteorite idol in the desert.  Jews don't either.

Islam is a 1300 year old CULT.  Its "scripture" is based upon poorly plagiarized passages from the Torah and Prophets, with added plagiarized bullshit from the Gnostic Gospels, and topped off with the rabid chantings of a wifebeating pedophile murderous Lunatic. (may he burn in Hell.)

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Christianity and Islam are not even in the same ball park.

When Christians get mad at each other, they point fingers and feel bad.

When Muslims get mad at each other, they point AK47s at each other or send little children with bombs in back packs.

When Christians get radical, they "turn the other cheek".

When Muslims get radical, they blow every ones cheeks off.

To put them in the same class is sort of like kicking the puppy instead of going out and fixing the real problem.

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I'm a bit embarrassed by some of the comments to Shireen's discussion post.  Neocon (David) got booted, and DeeDee weighed in with a bunch of irrelevant blather on Nazis and fascism.  There are other examples.  This is not the way to impress a newcomer to the site, has provided some excellent food for thought, and get carpetbombed.  My guess is that is the last time we will hear from her.

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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@Anonymous: Christians don't worship a Moon God without one begotten Son with a holy meteorite idol in the desert. Jews don't either. ---------- So when Jesus said he was the 'morning star' that wasnt a reference to Venus?
RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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Christianity and Islam are not even in the same ball park. -------- Have you even read the scriptures you havent read? Jesus is called Isaa in the Koran [No I am not of middle east descent] And is thought to be a prophet, but not a meesiah, same as with the Judaists. They dont see Jesus as God, Lord or Messiah either.
RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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DP laughs at you

And all the other morons.

on www.thestinkingpile.com

Hate will destroy the haters.

Blog away

Sleep while

9/11 redux is being planned by your masters

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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To put them in the same class is sort of like kicking the puppy instead of going out and fixing the real problem. ------------- you really should start reading more. According to genesis, and thus 'Christianity' we all climbed off Noahs ark. Are you saying we, humanity, arent of the same class? Your talking ideology here. Please differentiate when discussing such things. Thx
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Open Apology to DeeDee;

 

I've been off-line for about 8 hours, ... to cool off and think.

 

I said things that I should not have said.  I am sorry that I said them, and it won't happen again.

 

I have certain two hot buttons that set me off.  One is the potential Islamization of America. You may be right .. I am a bigot and not very tolerant of the Muslim religion, except for those cases where they are secular believers.  The second is where I perceive a bashing of America. I won't go into detail except to say I remember the scorn I received wearing my uniform in public when I had to back in the early 70's.

 

These are NOT excuses.  I know it's OK to believe what I want.I still disagree with your own viewpoints.  However, the way I express my feelings in such a hotheaded and vulagar way towards you was totally uncalled for.

 

You may or may not accept my apology. Nevertheless, again, I am sorry for talking to you in the way I did.

Stuck

RagingDebate.com - PeteB
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I find the prejudice masquerading as scholarship on the topic of islam shameful. 

I find the preference to speak of christianity or judaism as inherently more merciful or civilized to be particularly galling.

Nothing that is spoken here has anything to do with a benevolent, merciful god.  It has everything to do with the base desires of naked apes.  

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

RagingDebate.com - rennerstump
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    Men are polygamous! Women are monogamous!  This genetic problem leads men to polygamistic religions and women towards monogamistic religions.?  The chinese prefer to listen to the debate and practice capitalistic communism on earth.  The two sexes should go to separate churches, temples, etc.  The end timers believe they are all suffering needlessly from word overload!! RS

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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No matter our various positions, we should congratulate ShireenQudosi for inciting one of the most activate and lengthy debates we seen on RagingDebate with, what I believe, was her very first article.

RagingDebate.com - Anonymous
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